outfit new irregulars once the modern World War II weapons had given out. Over the years I talked at length with the late Edward Lansdale for several projects I was involved with concerning terrorism and psyops warfare. Often our conversation turned to his early days in Vietnam, and he once told me about visiting the guerrilla camps of the Lien Minh. General Lansdale said he was amazed at the pristine condition of the small semiautomatic pistol carried by his host, Trinh Minh Th£. 'He told me it was Marine PFCD.S. Loosemore with a smaller hybrid copy pjrnemade ChiCom-type carbine taken of the Soviet Tokarev, from a Vietcong guerrilla, spring of 1 966. and I asked him where he got it,' General Lansdale recalled. 'He told me it was made for him in the same place that his people got most of the weapons they did not capture in battle. He took me to their armory ... I saw everything from Ml rifles to Ml carbines to Soviet PPSH submachine guns to several .50-caliber M2 heavy machine guns. Although some were GI issue, a number of the weapons showed variations and a bit rougher workmanship. They were homemade,' he added. Trinh Minh Th6 told General Lansdale that the Lien Minh made all of the copy weapons right there in camp.